In Sickness and in Health
IN SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH - the podcast on health and social justice


This is a podcast about health and social justice.
Health is wealth.
Some of us have it, some don’t.
Some of us will live long and healthy lives… and some won’t.
But why me and not them? Why them and not me?
We bring you those stories...


Our Host

Dr. Celine Gounder - one of PEOPLE magazine's 25 Women Changing the World

In Sickness and in Health is produced and hosted by Dr. Celine Gounder.

Dr. Gounder is a doctor, a disease detective and a storyteller. When she’s not battling HIV, tuberculosis or Ebola in sub-Saharan Africa or caring for patients in some of the most underserved areas in the U. S., she’s at home in NYC.

And she's one of People Magazine's 25 Women Changing the World in 2017! Watch her interview with People TV here (jump to 39:45) or here.



S1: Youth & Mental Health

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Episode 1: How do we communicate responsibly about depression and suicide without fueling contagion? During the 2016-2017 academic year, Columbia University was rocked by at least five student suicides. Guests: Jacqueline Basulto and Sean Ryan, Columbia University graduates; Dr. Dan Reidenberg, Executive Director of Suicide Awareness Voices of Education (SAVE); Jennifer Michael Hecht, historian, poet and author of Stay: A History of Suicide and the Arguments Against It.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 2: Why are LGBTQ youth at such high risk of depression, anxiety and suicide? Guests: Ed Tully, father of a transgender teen in Minnesota; Dr. Ximena Lopez, pediatric endocrinologist specializing in adolescent trans care at UT Southwestern Medical Center and TEDMED 2017 speaker.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 3: How do new stressors contribute to the risk of suicide among young people? Guests: Kristine Bernardoni, mother in California whose son was one of a cluster of students to die by suicide at his high school; Sarah Molina and Brandaly Mora, high school students in Florida who have themselves experienced suicidal ideation and are now doing what they can to help others through their work with the HOPE Sunshine Club; Dr. Denise Pope, adolescent stress researcher at the Stanford Graduate School of Education, co-founder of Challenge Success, and author of Overloaded and Underprepared: Strategies for Stronger Schools and Healthy, Successful Kids.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 4: How can social media, texting and big data be used to improve mental health and prevent suicide? And what can colleges and universities do to help their students? Guests: Nancy Lublin, founder and CEO of the Crisis Text Line, founder of and Dress for Success, TEDWomen 2015 speaker; Bob Filbin, Chief Data Scientist at the Crisis Text Line; Dr. Glen Coppersmith, founder and CEO of QNTFY; John MacPhee, Executive Director and CEO of the JED Foundation; Brandaly Mora and Sarah Molina, students at Cooper City High School and members of the HOPE Sunshine Club.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 5: Can movies and shows like Netflix's 13 Reasons Why raise awareness about mental health and help those at risk for suicide? Guests: Dr. Victor Schwartz, suicide prevention expert and Chief Medical Officer at the JED Foundation; Erahm Christopher, director of Listen; Michael Lehman, director of the cult classic Heathers; Jenny Jaffe, writer, actress and comedienne, founder of Project UROK, and star of IFC's Neurotica.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

S2: The Opioid Overdose Crisis

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Episode 1: Is addiction a brain disease? a moral failing or lack of willpower? or neither? And why does it matter? Guests: Prof. Owen Flanagan, expert on the philosophy of mind and psychiatry, ethics and moral psychology at Duke University, and in recovery from substance abuse; Dr. Nora Volkow, Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse at the National Institutes of Health, and TEDMED 2014 speaker; Dr. Carl Hart, Chair of Psychology at Columbia University, author of High Price: A Neuroscientist's Journey of Self-Discovery That Challenges Everything You Know About Drugs and Society, and TEDMED 2014 speaker; Prof. Candice Shelby, professor of philosophy at the University of Colorado, and author of Addiction: A Philosophical Perspective.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 2: Is neonatal abstinence syndrome -- babies whose mothers used opioids in pregnancy and who go into withdrawal after birth -- is another form of intergenerational violence? And how can a community stop the cycle? Guests: Lieutenant Debbie Richmond, specialist in child abuse investigations at the Bristol Tennessee Police Department; Lisa Carter, CEO of Niswonger Children's Hospital in Johnson City, Tennessee; Ashlie Harrod, nurse educator with the Sullivan County Health Department in Tennessee; Chris Miller, Chief Patient Experience Officer of Mountain States Health Alliance's Washington County Market, and the adoptive father of a baby boy with neonatal abstinence syndrome.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 3: How has the rise of fentanyl led to a spike in drug overdose deaths? And why would anyone want to take or deal in such a deadly drug? Guests: Mark Kinzly, co-founder of the Texas Overdose Naloxone Initiative, staff member with the Austin Harm Reduction Coalition in Texas, board member for the National Harm Reduction Coalition, and former heroin user; Carole Rendon, former US attorney for the Northern District of Ohio and a partner at Baker Hostetler LLP; Dr. Thomas P. Gilson, medical examiner for Cuyahoga County, and executive director for the Cuyahoga County crime laboratory; Christopher Tersigni, Assistant Special Agent at the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA); Dr. Denise Paone, Senior Director of Research and Surveillance at the Bureau of Alcohol and Drug Use Prevention, Care and Treatment at the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.   iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 4: Could we save lives by offering drug users anonymous purity testing of their drugs for adulterants and dangerous cutting agents like fentanyl? Guests: Dr. Carl Hart, Chair of Psychology at Columbia University, author of High Price: A Neuroscientist's Journey of Self-Discovery That Challenges Everything You Know About Drugs and Society, and TEDMED 2014 speaker; Daan van der Gouwe, a researcher at the Trimbos Instituut in the Netherlands; Tino Fuentes, freelance harm reduction consultant, former Director of Syringe Access and Naloxone programs at St. Ann’s Corner of Harm Reduction in New York City, and former heroin dealer and user.  iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

Episode 5: In the 1990s, researchers recruited 17,000 adults to answer questions about childhood stressors and trauma and their health. What does this groundbreaking research -- the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) study -- show us about how to treat substance abuse? Guests: Phillip Fiuty, Coordinator for Harm Reduction Programs at Santa Fe Mountain Center, and in recovery from substance abuse; Dr. Daniel Sumrok, Director of the Center for Addiction Science at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center in Memphis; Dr. Nora Volkow, Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse at the National Institutes of Health, and TEDMED 2014 speaker; Dr. Gabor Maté, expert on addiction, stress and childhood development, co-founder of Compassion for Addiction, former physician with the Portland Hotel Society and Insite in Vancouver, Canada, author of In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts, and a Holocaust survivor.   iTunes  GooglePlay  SoundCloud  Stitcher  RadioTuneIn  Read the transcript

More episodes of Season 2 will be released soon!

S3: Gun Violence Is a Public Health Problem

Season 3 will be coming out later this spring!

S4: Health & Human Trafficking



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